DISCUSSION: IS CHRISTMAS CHRISTIAN OR SECULAR?

How do you celebrate Christmas?

There is a ton of debate, much of it facetious, about the War on Christmas.  It’s certainly become a staple of FOX News over the past few years.

However, I know a lot of Humanist, Atheists, Freethinkers and so on that celebrate it regularly.  And yet others like the Associate Editor of Free Inquiry Tom Flynn who argues in his book The Trouble with Christmas that non-Christians positively should not celebrate Christmas.

So what do you think?

-Should non-theists and humanists stop celebrating Christmas and replace it with our own holiday, like HumanLight?
-Or, Is Christmas already a secular holiday?

And if you celebrate Christmas still, what’s your advice for those hairy situations with religious family?  Do you go along or just try your best to ignore this and that about ‘virgin births’?

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2 Responses to DISCUSSION: IS CHRISTMAS CHRISTIAN OR SECULAR?

  1. Howard says:

    As atheists I think we should encourage the commemmoration of the winter solstice with the reminder to all that it marks the traditional beginning of a new year. Let”s teach people that the temple was the original place to study “tempus” (Latin for time) and that priestly knowledge of the calendar used to be a source of authority in ancient societies – long before the gradual democritization of calendar knowledge under the Greeks and Romans. The naturally precise movement of the sky provided the foundation and catalyst for ceremony and ritual, performed by temple priests. These same rituals underpinned the philosophy of modern religions, with their devotion to the grand architect of the universe – the god who lives in the heavens. Ancient traditions of Apollo were transformed directly into those for Christ (I am the “Light”). Apellations became Christian Names. Apollo’s annual birthday became Christ’s birthday. The Sun disk halo was now worn by Christ. Pre-meal thanks to the Sun for providing warmth and light for food became thanks to Christ. Sunday was the day for worshipping Christ, and a new solar calendar was adopted as Anno Domini. Meanwhile the muslims stuck with the lunar calendar, with their symbols of the moon and Venus day. Their holy day was Friday – Freyja’s Day for Freyja the evening star (Venus). The French say “vendredi” or Venus day. Lunar priests who monitored the night sky wore black, and were dispargingly called the sons of darkness. Their lord was the prince of darkness – Lucifer (fiery light = Venus). Let’s keep reminding everyone that prayers are always directed at the sky since our religious friends try to distance themselves from the sky with every new scientific paper that explains what’s really up there. Let’s keep the winter solstice in Christmas, as a painful and embarrassing reminder to those who would prefer to forget it.

  2. Samantha says:

    Personally, Christmas had been about tradition to me. I enjoy all of the homey rituals. I have a decorated tree, presents, references to Santa Clause, time spent with family and friends. These traditions are mainly what make winter a nice time for me (the lack of sunlight saddens me). And none of them have any reference to Christianity. I cherish my loved ones without the help of Christ. I do not have a problem with naming this time after a Christian tradition because I may very well give them some credit for the traditions. However, I wouldn’t mind if the name changed either if they would prefer that someone like me does not misuse their holiday. Either way, I will still continue to celebrate the holiday.

    I love the idea of worshiping the sun, but like I said, the sun is pretty nonexistent in the winter.

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